Too much worry about Ahmadinejad. He’s not very powerful and he’s not very popular at home. The mullahs run Iran and their history in power shows that they are more realistic and pragmatic than American and Israeli paranoid pundits would have one believe. There is a historical ambivilance in Iran when it comes to Israel. They, like Saddam’s Iraq, do play the “Israel” card for the consumption of the Arab Street, and they are alleged to be funding some bad actors in the Israel/Palestine arena. But all this is pretty understandable – this is a nation acting in it’s self-interest. Iran does want to be a major player in regional affairs, and that’s understandable as well. But I do not see them as an existensial threat to anyone – including Israel. I believe this is militaristic, Rightwing fear-mongering.
As for privatization of SS, I find the argument strangely ironic, coming from the right, that is. Forcing money into the “Free Market” is about as anti-capitistic an idea as one could have. People choose to invest, and that’s fine. But when you force, or coerce, or incentivize mass public investments in the private sector, you open up a Pandora’s Box of fraud, risk, and corruption. Privatizing SS seems to me to about the dumbest thing I’m ever heard from the Right. If you want to try to do away with it – like you do almost every other gov’t program with the exception of the military (by far the most wasteful of all programs – another irony) – then try to do that. Be honest. But don’t mix the Free Markets with the Public Commons. It’s just begging for trouble.
As for fixing SS – removing the payroll cap, at least with some sort of reverse progressivity, would fix the problem forever, and that goes for Medicare as well. This is not about problems with the programs in any way. They work great and everyone knows it. This is about greed and the very rich.
Mr. Baehr seems like a reasonable fellow, though. Thanks for the interview, guys!
Went through this once already Jersey, but you must ( like the rest of the moonbats) think if you say it over and over again it will become truth.
But you still insist on saying that Americans are so stupid we think Amadingdong is our only problem, we all know he’s a puppet.
I kicked your butt on this, but its a manth and a half later and you repeat yourself again.
Jersey McJones said,
October 19, 2007 at 3:02 pm
“Micky Ahmedloonyjad has about as much real power in Iran as you do. Letr’s get real here.
But I do not see them as an existensial threat to anyone – including Israel. I believe this is militaristic, Rightwing fear-mongering.
To which I said;
October 19, 2007 at 10:59 pm
Both anon and jersey dont get it.
It doesnt matter if donald duck is the president of Iran, or if he is popular or not.
I am well awre of the recent student protests and the countries younger population not being too crazy about him.
Both of you need to realize that no matter who is the mouth piece the message is the same. Mahmoud is simply a vocal extention and spokesman for the clerics and the ayatollahs. It is also not the president who is behind the proliferation of Iranian nukes, it is the clerics and the Ayatollahs who are operating the purse strings for the project.
It is the clerics and the Ayatollas who give marching orders to the Qods and national gaurdsman that are infiltrating Iraq.
I’m not as disconnected as you would care to believe.
So please already , drop it and lets get back to the fact that Iran is a terrorist state and has been supplying weapons and operatives to perform terrorist acts on Iraqis and American soldiers.
Iranian personnel have established safe houses throughout southern Iraq. They monitor the movement of coalition forces, tend weapons caches, facilitate cross-border travel of clerics, smuggle munitions into Iraq and recruit individuals as intelligence sources. Presumably, Tehran has recruited networks within U.S. military bases and civilian compounds that could be activated on short notice. Iran is also believed by regional intelligence agencies to have armed and trained as many as 40,000 Iraqis to prevent an unlikely rollback of Shiite control.
Petraeus’ broadside wasn’t an isolated incident. In recent weeks, the military command in Baghdad has stepped up its offensive — both public and tactical — against Iranian-backed “special groups militias” south of Baghdad, which have led to dozens being killed or captured. The military has also emphasized any seizure of “Iranian-made” weapons, such as mortars, IEDs and hand grenades, no matter how small the cache.
The Iranians being captured in Iraq are not wearing any uniform identifying them as anything other than iraqi citizens,
This is one of terrorists main defenses. They are not bound by ant international law that requires a combatent to display his alegiance.
This is fact.
We have a number of Iranian operatives in custody that were caught on the field wearing civilian attire and shooting at or planning attacks on Iraqis or Americans.
Including one of their Generals whos name escapes me right now
The U.S. State Department considers the MEK a terrorist organization — meaning no American can deal with it; U.S. banks must freeze its assets; and any American giving support to its members is committing a crime.
Call it fear mongering all you want.
The threat is still proven and real.
I’ve heard all this before, Micky. Iran is no bed of roses, of course, but they are not an existential threat to Israel, let alone America. I’ve read a lot of good literature on the subject, and on the whole the realistic conclusion for me is that Iran can be handled without war or even serious threats of war. Look, military diplomacy has it’s place, and so does other forms of relations. But the isolate/threaten approach has not worked, will not work, it not working, and really never has worked pretty much anywhere in the Middle East ever. It’s just a matter of knowing history and keeping a realistic perspective and understanding if the interests and actions of nations. Iran knows that if it destroyed Israel it in turn would be destroyed. There’s a “MAD” factor here and it isn’t the comic-bookish caricature of Ahmadinejad.
Eric, this is a great blog. How to link for a technological idiot like myself is very hard. Show me and do it. BTW, great interview with the guy from the”American Thinker”. The real debate above should now center on the inane peace process put forward by the Prez and Condi. It is just absurd and will never give peace to Israel. The
Arab jihadists will simply tear them apart and break any agreeement. Anyhow, go to my blog and say hi. KGK, Glenn Koons
“Iran does want to be a major player in regional affairs, and that’s understandable as well. But I do not see them as an existensial threat to anyone”
What you’ve heard all before are facts jersey, not beliefs. Like yours.
Of course you and Barak would probably like to sit down with them.
which by the way has never worked either.
The whole crux of the matter here is not what you think or think wont work.
You are delusional if you think they are not a threat.
THEY HAVE ALREADY PROVEN TO BE ONE, NO MATTER WHAT AMOUNT OF “GOOD” LITERATURE YOU HAVE READ!
You cant apply the right tactics when you cant even identify a turd when you see one.
You say its not a bed of roses.
You say they dont want to be a major player ?
You’re dreaming Jersey, dreaming.
Heres what your own Bill Richardson has to say about that;
We need to be absolutely clear that a nuclear Iran is unacceptable, and we need to be absolutely credible when we say what we will do about it if the Iranians continue to disregard the will of the international community. The clear message must be this: develop nukes and you will face devastating global sanctions.
There are at least six major reasons why Iran is strategically significant. These are: (1) its nuclear ambitions; (2) its importance to stability in Iraq; (3) its support for extreme Arab factions – such as Hezbollah and Hamas – who themselves are obstacles to stability in Lebanon and to the Palestinian-Israeli peace process; (4) its status as a major oil and gas producer; (5) its importance to the flow of oil through the Straits of Hormuz; and (6) its role as leader of the world’s Islamic Shia population.
Now, I dont agree with Bill Richardson, I think we should kick they’re hinds from here to kingdom come. But even Richardson is mentioning crippling sanctions and more that you say wont and hasnt worked.
And if you know history as you proudly brag, you would know that these tactics have worked well plenty of times. ( N.Korea ring a bell?)
You’re the perfect lib . You always know what we shouldnt do, but never what we should.
“What you’ve heard all before are facts jersey, not beliefs. Like yours.”
No. I’ve seen the facts, they are damning every which way you look, and most of them are not pretty. That’s why all this is an issue. It’s all public info. Iran is a conundrum. I got it. I’m not stupid. It’s how we deal with problems that bothers me. It seems we’re just looking for trouble. There’s nothing worse than a big dude with a big crowd, all of them drunk, stomping into the bar looking for trouble. We’re the big, stupid drunk. It’s time to start relating like the smart guy at the bar who walks out, during the “big guy” fight, with the good-looking lady.
“You are delusional if you think they are not a threat.”
I live in the greatest nation on Earth. I do not live in fear of religious idiots from the Middle East.
“You say they dont want to be a major player ?”
No. I said they do. Every large nation-state does.
“We need to be absolutely clear that a nuclear Iran is unacceptable,…”
I know. Richardson is right – to a point. Iran should be dissuaded from joining the nuclear club. But as far as the future of thr region is concerned, eventually a country like Iran is bound to catch up with the technologies of their neighbors. And a country can have nuclear power without nuclear weapons. Iran, as far as most GOP and Dem pols thought for many years, would be a great experiment in that. Otherwise, Richardson is just playing the fear card as usual. He’s not my favorite pol, but he is my favorite among the top 5 of the Dems.
First jersey says this;
“Iran does want to be a major player in regional affairs,”
And when its pointed out that hes wrong he thinks he can BS us all and say this;
“No. I said they do. Every large nation-state does.”
And then JMJ says this’
Richardson is just playing the fear card as usual. He’s not my favorite pol, but he is my favorite among the top 5 of the Dems.
So , hes one of the top five in your mind , but when he doesnt bend over hes wrong.
Why would he be playing the fear card if everything a simple uninformed citizen says is true ?
Even the weakest dem candidate gets it , but you dont.
“I live in the greatest nation on Earth. I do not live in fear of religious idiots from the Middle East.”
Total insanity, absolute pacifist.
Any rational human would have some fear after being attacked numerous times by the same thing.
But yet you fear a global “catstrophie” the likes of a nuclear holocaust, based on carbon emissions that cant be proven.
Thank you for the interview post. I was unaware of the Richard’s site, “American Thinker”. I plan to visit it soon and often. He sounds like an “American”.
It has always been my belief that the American voter is utimately responsible for the “State of the Nation”. Too many “voters” devote too little time and effort in the selection of our leaders. Too many “voters” don’t care and don’t pay much attention to to what is going on in the world. If people would just listen and watch information sources other than the MSM perhaps they would make better decisions. It is terrifing that about 50% of the American People buy into the crap they are being fed.
“But I do not see them as an existensial threat to anyone ”
With this logic just about any and every thought of yours that follows will be irrational And quite frankly, fresh out of La La land.
SAID THEY WANT TO BE A REGIONAL POWER, %$#&^%#$@!!!!! Clean your glasses, man!
I might be wrong, but I cant find anywhere on this thread that you said they wanted to be a regional power. No where ! I dont wear or need glasses.
” this is a nation acting in it’s self-interest.”” Iran does want to be a major player in regional affairs, “” and that’s understandable as well.
And if you want to talk about%$#&^%#$@!!!!! Then tell me what kinda dumb analogy this was.
“There’s nothing worse than a big dude with a big crowd, all of them drunk, stomping into the bar looking for trouble. We’re the big, stupid drunk. ”
Iran is the one just yesterday feeding the riots coming out of Hamas, Hezbolla, just over the peace talks in Annapolis. Not to mention they are threatening Israel on a daily basis and sending ammunitions and suicide bombers into Iraq. They were actually at the center of these talks yesterday, even though they were not present for OBVIOUS reasons.
So while you would like to turns this around somehow and make look as if I took you out of context and close the debate with that chicken lib logic, its only evident that you just like to come out and go Bla Bla Bla without really having it together.
You just want to argue the evident even when its staring you in the face because its the right that has to deal with all this crap and not the left. If Hillary or Obama or some demorcrat were in charge and doing the same thing right now you would be kissing their footprints.
If a meteorite was 10 minutes from hitting earth and a conservative said a meteorite is gonna hit us , you would say ” Ahh BS! ”
If a liberal said a meteorite was going to hit us, you would try to sell me an umbrella.
Otherwise what Jersey ?
You like to tell everyone what a great American you are, Quite frankly , in my opinion, I pray for anyone falls victim to your warped interpretations of our country and the world around us.