A Jewish Debate About 2008–Conclusion

May 30, 2008 at 9:23 am (POLITICS)

http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/a-jewish-debate-about-2008-conclusion/

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13 Comments

  1. Jersey McJones said,

    “Most republicans wanted a full scale escalation and would be fine if Iran and Syria were incinerated immediately.”

    Wow. That’s pretty frightening. Just how much blood will satiate your thirsts? How many families, women, children, the elderly, would have to be massacred to make you feel secure? Really. There is something deeply troubling about that statement.

    JMJ

  2. micky2 said,

    Yea, theres probably a few individuals in Iran and Syria that dont deserve incineration.
    But I wonder if the trade off for saving them would be worth it in the long run simply because the longer these evil regimes exist the more innocents they will continue to kill as a result of state funded terrorism and terrorist activities.
    So today we will save a few thousand normal good hearted Iranians and Syrians.
    And tomorrow the rest of them will kill all the jews and whatever Americans they can get away with.
    Do the math, what has been the exchange of casualties in the last 50 years that we have been trying to get these dysfunctional regimes to acknowledge Israels right to exist ?

    JMJ:
    “That’s pretty frightening. Just how much blood will satiate your thirsts? How many families, women, children, the elderly, would have to be massacred to make you feel secure? ”

    Why dont you try asking Hezbolla, Iran and Syria the same question. Huh ?

  3. Jersey McJones said,

    So you’re saying we should be more like Hezbollah?

    JMJ

  4. deaconblue said,

    NO, he’s just asking you to be consistent in your criteria. You’re quick to condemn Americans, specifically Republicans, but go dead quiet when it comes to the opposition. That’s all.

  5. micky2 said,

    Jersy, if we did anything so drastic it would be in response to these a$$holes.
    We would not be initiating but rather ending the cycle we have seen for decades now.
    They are the terrorist states, not us. And they are the ones who have expressedly wished to wipe Israel off the map and are not being forthcoming and transparent with their nuclear programs.
    But yet are incredibly forthcoming and transparent with their intentions.

  6. Jersey McJones said,

    Deacon and Micky, we ARE Americans. We can only speak and act for ourselves. We are not accountable for the actions of others, only ourselves.

    Assaulting Iran and Syria would be an incredibly evil and wrongheaded tthing to do unless we absolutely and truly had hard evidence they have are are right about to commit some horrific act against us or one of our allies. The current administration has ZERO CREDIBILITY with the vast majority of the human race and Americans. If they commited such an act, it would be seen as the belligerent aggression of a violent and hostile colonialist regime.

    I realize that these countries are a threat to Israel, and that should be a major concern. But Israel is not America. America comes first. Unless Israel is on the verge of annihilation (in which case they would simply take care of the matter themselves, I’m quite sure) it is not for us to launch yet another foolish preemtive debacle of a war.

    JMJ

  7. micky2 said,

    IThe iraq was war was not foolish. was the initial invasion screwed up ? Yea.

    JMJ:
    “Assaulting Iran and Syria would be an incredibly evil and wrongheaded tthing to do unless we absolutely and truly had hard evidence they have are are right about to commit some horrific act against us or one of our allies.

    I repeat:
    “Jersy, if we did anything so drastic it would be in response to these a$$holes.
    We would not be initiating but rather ending the cycle we have seen for decades now.
    They are the terrorist states, not us. And they are the ones who have expressedly wished to wipe Israel off the map and are not being forthcoming and transparent with their nuclear programs.”

    Let me ask you something ?
    Should we give aid to countries that suffer from disaters ?

    JMJ;
    “Assaulting Iran and Syria would be an incredibly evil and wrongheaded tthing to do unless we absolutely and truly had hard evidence they have are are right about to commit some horrific act against us or one of our allies.”

    Hmm. I guess “enough ” evidence for you would be after they’re all dead ?
    Israel is our allie, so please, decide if its America or our allies or both.
    Usually its to late once the evidence is discoverd jersey.

    And the theres always the question that libs hate.
    How long should we let this go on ?
    Do we allow the middle east to fall into oblivion ? Destroy our economy ?

  8. micky2 said,

    Maybe we could get the libs to convince the Syrians and Iranians that they are experiencing climate change because of weapons and heavy metal deposits in their countries.
    Hey, it worked using carbon deposits as the cause on half of America.

  9. Jersey McJones said,

    Micky, what you’re conveniently leaving aside here is that Israel can protect itself – to a point. The Israel soldier, per man and woman, may well be the finest on the planet (no offense, America). Also, Israel intelligence probably is the finest on the planet (just ask our American intelligence!). So, for these reasons alone, we should not preemptively engage in war in the Middle East. The result – the losses and costs and even the gains – has gone horrifically. Repeating such an obvious mistake would be obnoxiously stupid.

    JMJ

  10. micky2 said,

    What you’re conveniently forgeting is that if Israel retaliates one or the other of many of Irans allies will chip in.
    Also you forget our interests over there that must be protected along with our men and women in Iraq that are subjected to Iranian weapons and violent operatives.
    These shmucks would just love to see Iraq be brought back to the same kind of oppression saddam imposed upon them.
    We have been fighting a proxy war with Iran and syria as it is.
    If we lose Israel and Iraq in the middle east you can pretty much kiss goodbye life here as you know it.

  11. Jersey McJones said,

    You’re assuming Syria and Iran are retarded states. They know what would happen. There’s no immediate threat, or even one in any imaginable near future.

    You hawks ought to knock it off.

    JMJ

  12. micky2 said,

    Thats my point ding a ling.
    Lets wait til the threat is immediate, thats what libs do when it comes to everything.
    And yea there is one in the future, I would bet on it only because its growing by a general concensus that is supported by the world communitys vision of Iran.
    Even the IAEA said a couple days ago that Iran is starting to look pretty scarey.
    http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/News/2008/iranreport0508.html

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1809561,00.html
    Iran may be withholding information needed to establish whether it tried to make nuclear arms, the International Atomic Energy Agency said Monday in an unusually strongly worded report.
    The tone of the language suggesting Tehran continues to stonewall the U.N. nuclear monitor revealed a glimpse of the frustration felt by agency investigators stymied in their attempts to gain full answers to suspicious aspects of Iran’s past nuclear activities.

    A senior U.N. official familiar with the investigation into Iran’s nuclear program said none of the dozens of agency reports issued in that context had ever been as plain spoken in calling Tehran to task for not being forthright. He agreed to discuss the report only if granted anonymity because he was not authorized to comment to the media.

  13. Brian said,

    Isolating and not doing business with Iran and Syria over an extended period of time could and perhaps would do wonders in realizing our objectives concerning those two regimes…unfortunately, too much business is done by companies in the western world with the leadership of those two nations.

    The Europeans and the IAEA have failed in their dealings with Iran. They and we would be wise to use everything in our arsenal but War (the very last option) to effectively deal with Iran.

    Somehow, someway the Chinese and Russians must be cajoled to join us…this shouldn’t be seen as an East/West issue…the prospects of a nuclear Iran are detrimental to the subsistence of all its neighbors…

    It’s been 55 years since Mosadegh…it’s high time for the Iranian people to responsibly remove the Mullahs from power…and soon! Or…

    We will have to bomb them…

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